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Kitchen with living room and fireplace
Dear All,
I'd like to ask for some help in our kitchen planning process. We are building our house in Budapest, Hungary. I'm sorry about writing in English, but my German is very basic.
I have attached a floorplan and some pictures about our kitchen + dining room + living room area. (The wall between the kitchen and the living room will not be built.) The kitchen will be in corner ... I have planned the kitchen roughly, the power outlets and water connections are already fixed. The sink should go under the window, the dishwasher next to it (left or right side, it does not matter for us). I also have made an IKEA version, because that is more close to our budget.
There are 2 options for the place of the hob.
Our first idea is to put the hob to the center of the kitchen island. As we don't want to have any ceiling mounted filter, the hob should have a downdraft filter, like this one: https://www.ikea.com/de/de/p/foerdelaktig-induktionskochfeld-mit-dunstabzug-ikea -700-black-50449403 /
The second idea is to put the hob close in between the corner and the sink. In this case we would need a filter built into the cabinet. This version would be much cheaper, easier to clean etc. Most of the food preparation would be done between the hob and the sink, but it's tricky how to make this area wide enough.
We will have a central HRV ventilation system, therefore we should have circulating air hood.
The fridge would be a side-by-side fridge (fridge and freezer combo), with an ice-maker feature. These are usually 91cm wide. I was thinking about a narrower fridge to have more workspace, however, the ice-maker would not be an option anymore.
Dimensions of the kitchen:
As the room height is 290 cm, I'm wondering about floor-to-ceiling cabinets. What do you think?
What would be the price of this kitchen in Germany? Would you recommend any manufacturer which is close to IKEA price and delivers to Hungary?
Kitchen planning checklist
Personal criteria and ergonomics
Number of people in the household: 4
Of which children: 2
Height of all main users in cm (due to working height): 176 and 182
What working height is planned (in cm) ?: 92
Building criteria
Type of building: New construction / renovation> Plan changes possible
Parapet height of the window (in cm): 120
Window height (in cm): 100
Room height in cm: 291
Heating: underfloor heating
Water&drain connections: fixed: water & drain is 230 cm from the corner, under the left side of the window.
Built-in device criteria
Execution of cooling device: Side by Side (approx. 90cm wide)
Built-in cooling unit size: N.A.
Type of freezer (TK) device: N.A.
Extractor hood: circulating air
Elevated oven: if possible
Planned heating devices: built-in microwave, oven
High-rise dishwasher: no
Type of hob: induction hob
Hob width (approx. In cm): 60 or 80, not decided
Seating
Seating in the kitchen / in the kitchen area: protruding worktop
Seating: For how many people ?: For 4 people
Seating: table - if there is a separate table or open kitchen: will be bought new as required
Desired or existing table size: at least 90x150
What should the seat in the kitchen be used for and how often: sit and talk to the chef
Storage space planning
What is or should be on the worktop ?: Coffee machine, kettle, slicer, toaster, fruit bowl
Which other kitchen machines must be accommodated in the kitchen: kitchen machine, hand mixer, mixer, hand blender, egg cooker
What should be accommodated in the kitchen besides the standards: N. a.
What other storage space is there: crockery / glass cabinet in the living / dining room, pantry, utility room
Cooking habits
What / how is cooked? (Everyday cuisine, menus, snacks, etc.): warm meal every other day; cook for 10+ guests on the weekend, baking
How often is it cooked: (almost) once a day warm
Do you cook alone? Or also together? With and for guests ?: alone and together
Sinks and trash
Sink shape: 1 1/2 bowl with drainer
What sort of waste should be kept in the kitchen: organic waste, residual waste
miscellaneous
If a kitchen manufacturer has already been determined or is preferred: N. a.
If a device manufacturer has already been determined or is preferred: N. a.
Kitchen style: Classic
What is disturbing about the previous kitchen and what should the new kitchen be able to do? Why ?: N.A.
Asking price (budget): n.a.
attached files
Dear All,
I'd like to ask for some help in our kitchen planning process. We are building our house in Budapest, Hungary. I'm sorry about writing in English, but my German is very basic.
I have attached a floorplan and some pictures about our kitchen + dining room + living room area. (The wall between the kitchen and the living room will not be built.) The kitchen will be in corner ... I have planned the kitchen roughly, the power outlets and water connections are already fixed. The sink should go under the window, the dishwasher next to it (left or right side, it does not matter for us). I also have made an IKEA version, because that is more close to our budget.
There are 2 options for the place of the hob.
Our first idea is to put the hob to the center of the kitchen island. As we don't want to have any ceiling mounted filter, the hob should have a downdraft filter, like this one: https://www.ikea.com/de/de/p/foerdelaktig-induktionskochfeld-mit-dunstabzug-ikea -700-black-50449403 /
The second idea is to put the hob close in between the corner and the sink. In this case we would need a filter built into the cabinet. This version would be much cheaper, easier to clean etc. Most of the food preparation would be done between the hob and the sink, but it's tricky how to make this area wide enough.
We will have a central HRV ventilation system, therefore we should have circulating air hood.
The fridge would be a side-by-side fridge (fridge and freezer combo), with an ice-maker feature. These are usually 91cm wide. I was thinking about a narrower fridge to have more workspace, however, the ice-maker would not be an option anymore.
Dimensions of the kitchen:
- 336 cm from corner to corner
- 180.5 cm from corner to window
- 194.5 cm wide, 100 cm high window, bottom of the window is at 120 cm
- height of the room is around 290 cm
As the room height is 290 cm, I'm wondering about floor-to-ceiling cabinets. What do you think?
What would be the price of this kitchen in Germany? Would you recommend any manufacturer which is close to IKEA price and delivers to Hungary?
Kitchen planning checklist
Personal criteria and ergonomics
Number of people in the household: 4
Of which children: 2
Height of all main users in cm (due to working height): 176 and 182
What working height is planned (in cm) ?: 92
Building criteria
Type of building: New construction / renovation> Plan changes possible
Parapet height of the window (in cm): 120
Window height (in cm): 100
Room height in cm: 291
Heating: underfloor heating
Water&drain connections: fixed: water & drain is 230 cm from the corner, under the left side of the window.
Built-in device criteria
Execution of cooling device: Side by Side (approx. 90cm wide)
Built-in cooling unit size: N.A.
Type of freezer (TK) device: N.A.
Extractor hood: circulating air
Elevated oven: if possible
Planned heating devices: built-in microwave, oven
High-rise dishwasher: no
Type of hob: induction hob
Hob width (approx. In cm): 60 or 80, not decided
Seating
Seating in the kitchen / in the kitchen area: protruding worktop
Seating: For how many people ?: For 4 people
Seating: table - if there is a separate table or open kitchen: will be bought new as required
Desired or existing table size: at least 90x150
What should the seat in the kitchen be used for and how often: sit and talk to the chef
Storage space planning
What is or should be on the worktop ?: Coffee machine, kettle, slicer, toaster, fruit bowl
Which other kitchen machines must be accommodated in the kitchen: kitchen machine, hand mixer, mixer, hand blender, egg cooker
What should be accommodated in the kitchen besides the standards: N. a.
What other storage space is there: crockery / glass cabinet in the living / dining room, pantry, utility room
Cooking habits
What / how is cooked? (Everyday cuisine, menus, snacks, etc.): warm meal every other day; cook for 10+ guests on the weekend, baking
How often is it cooked: (almost) once a day warm
Do you cook alone? Or also together? With and for guests ?: alone and together
Sinks and trash
Sink shape: 1 1/2 bowl with drainer
What sort of waste should be kept in the kitchen: organic waste, residual waste
miscellaneous
If a kitchen manufacturer has already been determined or is preferred: N. a.
If a device manufacturer has already been determined or is preferred: N. a.
Kitchen style: Classic
What is disturbing about the previous kitchen and what should the new kitchen be able to do? Why ?: N.A.
Asking price (budget): n.a.
attached files
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